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Trump is "brazenly, shamelessly lying."

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« on: July 19, 2016, 01:02:18 pm »

One of Donald J. Trump's favorite boasts is that he could see from the start that the Iraq invasion would be a terrible mistake. It's a lie. It's a plain, unvarnished lie. He never said it. The closest anybody can find to a should/should not statement from Trump is this:
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On Sept. 11, 2002, for example, Howard Stern asked Trump, “Are you for invading Iraq?” Trump replied, “Yeah, I guess so.”

Trump talks all the time about giving a yuge amount of money to charities. Journalists have been searching everywhere across America, looking for a charity he has lavished his generosity upon, to no avail. Then one day, something turned up. It was a donation to a cancer charity from a Donald Trump. The addresses didn't match, though, and it turned out to be Donald S. Trump, a dentist. In the last 10 years, Donald J. Trump's money has left no tracks at any charity.

There was that one giant check he gave to a veterans' charity, but that was after the press were at his heels to keep a promise he'd made at one of the debates. An alleged billionaire claims to have donated alleged millions to alleged charities.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 02:46:51 pm »

Ah, but Giuliani (sp) covered up for him, at the convention.  He said he was breaking a promise he'd made to Trump, by revealing that Trump (supposedly) made his charitable contributions "anonymously".

Wow.  What a guy, huh?  He's such a humble person, never wanting to draw attention to himself.  Never wanting to promote himse ...... hell, I can't even finish being sarcastic, without wanting to throw up at what I'm saying.

Anyone who tries to tell you that Donald Trump does anything, without taking credit for it, is damned near as big a liar as Trump is ........... and, let me tell you, that's YUGE!
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2016, 10:55:54 am »

Talk about half truths, did you see the fact check on Hillary's lying speech last night. WOW.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2016, 10:59:15 am »

By the way, does Hillary have throat cancer of something? She was always clearing her throat last night. She usually has coughing attacks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2016, 11:35:42 am »

I don't know that Trump can switch from doing everything he can for his various business entities, to working for the common good of the US, its citizens & institutions, & by extension, the West.  I think he over-identifies with his businesses, which is understandable, to an extent.  But to convince me that he'd be good for the US as a whole & the World, he needs to do a lot more.

He needs to show some expertise & knowledge of the nations of the World, the players in politics, science, industry, military, economics, technology, populations, religions, cultures, some background in recent history of our allies & opponents.  TMK, he knows US show business & entertainment industry, hospitality industry, & real estate.  That's nowhere near enough.

Watching the coverage, Trump reminds me of a more glib & raucous macho version of Sarah Palin - who never convinced me that she was ready in any way, shape nor form to step into the VP's slot, with the understanding that she might be called to step into the President's slot.

Glib & swagger isn't enough - he needs to do the homework, & time is running out.  VP candidate Pence is a known quantity, he @ least has a political track record & reputation that can be studied.  Trump says whatever comes to his mind - & so far, I'm not convinced.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2016, 12:24:33 am »

I've been reading David Cay Johnston's new book The Making Of Donald Trump. I've learned that his great-grandfather Friedrich Drumpf immigrated to the US, and he Americanized his last name to Trump. He named his son Frederick Trump. Friederich and Fred both moved around many times, leaving behind unpaid debts at every turn. Both men opened businesses on property they did not own, and both ran bordellos repeatedly, bribing local officials to avoid arrest.

Their attitudes toward property, debt-paying, and chummy, under-the-table dealings with public officials seem to have been passed down to Donald J. Trump.

I have a little feeling I have misstated the history, in terms of which generations the scalawags were in. However, it is now too late at night for me to go back and check right now.

Good night. It has been a very long day.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2016, 09:40:07 am »

Interesting stuff, PP!
I take it that this Grandpa to The Don did his fair share of hustle. More interesting is the story about how he immigrated to the US. What reporters should do is ask The Don about his family. NO, not his rich spoiled kids, but his great grandpa and grandpa. Just to share with the public how The Don & Kids compares to The Grandpas. Husters and cons who lie lie lie for a living.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

In 1883, Trump, then aged 14, was sent to nearby Frankenthal by his mother to work as a barber’s apprentice and learn the trade. Trump worked seven days a week for two and a half years under barber Friedrich Lang. After completing his apprenticeship, he returned to Kallstadt, but quickly discovered that there was not enough business to earn a living. He was also approaching the age when he would have to serve a mandatory three-year military service. He quickly decided to immigrate to the United States, later saying, "I agreed with my mother that I should go to America";[4]:30 years later, his family members said that he left secretly in the night and left his mother a note without consulting her.[4]:30–31
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In 1885, at age 16, Trump emigrated from Bremen, Germany, to the United States aboard the steamship Eider, departing on October 7[4]:32 and arriving at the Castle Garden Emigrant Landing Depot in New York City on October 19. U.S. immigration records list his name as "Friedrich Trumpf", last place of residence as "Kallstadt", country of birth as "Germany", and his occupation as "farmer".[6] He moved in with his older sister Katherine – who had emigrated in 1883[4]:31 – and her husband Fred Schuster. Only a few hours after arriving, he met a German-speaking barber who was looking for an employee[4]:25 and began working the following day.[4]:34 He worked as a barber for six years.[2] Trump lived with his relatives in the Lower East Side of Manhattan in a neighborhood with many Kallstadt immigrants, at 76 Forsyth Street.[4]:33 Because the cost of operating at 76 Forsyth Street was getting expensive, they later moved to 606 East 17th Street[4]:37 and to 2012 2nd Avenue.[4]:39

In 1891, Trump moved to Seattle, Washington. With his life savings of several hundred dollars, he bought supplies, such as tables, chairs, and a range, and purchased the Poodle Dog, which he renamed the Dairy Restaurant.[2] Located at 208 Washington Street, the Dairy Restaurant was in the middle of Seattle’s Red Light District; Washington Street was nicknamed "the Line" and included an assortment of saloons, casinos, and brothels. Blair, the biographer, called it "a hotbed of sex, booze, and money, was the indisputable center of the action in Seattle."[4]:41 The restaurant served food and liquor and was advertised to include "Rooms for Ladies", a common euphemism for prostitution.[4]:50 Trump lived in Seattle until early 1893[4]:59 and voted in Washington's first presidential election in 1892.[4]:50 That same year he became a U.S. citizen.[4]:94

On 14 February 1894, Trump sold the Dairy Restaurant, and in March, he moved to the mining town of Monte Cristo, Washington in Snohomish County.[7] Monte Cristo was expected to produce a fortune of gold and silver because evidence of mineral deposits were discovered in 1889. This led to many prospectors moving to the area in hopes of becoming rich, with the financial investment of billionaire John D. Rockefeller in the entire Everett area creating an exaggerated expectation of the area's potential.[4]:53–58 Before leaving Seattle, he bought 40 acres (16 ha) in the Pine Lake Plateau, twelve miles east of the city, for $200, representing the first real estate purchase of the Trump family.[4]:59 In Monte Cristo, Trump found a plot of land near the train station that he wanted to build a new hotel on, but could not afford the $1,000-per-acre fee to purchase it. Instead, he filed a Gold placer claim on the land, which allowed him to claim exclusive mineral rights to the land without having to pay for it[4]:60 even though the land had already been claimed by Everett resident Nicholas Rudebeck. At that time, the US Land Office was known to be corrupt and allowed such activity frequently. Despite the placer's claim having given Trump no right to build any structure on the land, Trump quickly bought lumber to build a new hotel and operate it similarly to the Dairy Restaurant. He never attempted to mine gold on the land. Blair described Trump as “mining the miners”, since even if they never found any gold, they still needed a place to sleep at night when they were mining.[4]:61 While running the profitable hotel, Rudebeck filed to incorporate the land and then sent agents to collect rent in July 1894.[4]:65–66 Trump finally bought the land in December 1894.[4]:69 While in Monte Cristo, Trump was elected to office, winning the 1896 election for justice of the peace by a 32-to-5 margin.[4]:71
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2016, 02:04:29 pm »

An old saying tells us that when everybody is digging for gold, it's time to get into the picks & shovels business. Or in Trump's case, beds and friendly women.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2016, 12:22:37 pm »

Hmmmm, no mention of Hillarys lies. Wonder why.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2016, 12:57:59 pm »

It could be because this is a thread about the lies of Donald J. Trump, who personally swindled and defrauded many people out of over a hundred million dollars.
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